MOStlyCE Released for Mambo 4.5.4 - Mambo

cauld · June 14th, 2006, 17:02

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that we released the new default editor, MOStlyCE, for Mambo today. It will be the default in future versions starting with 4.6. We decided to backport to 4.5.4 as well. You can find it here on "The Source". I think you'll find it a big improvement over the plain TinyMCE editor included with Mambo.

Note: The version released for 4.5.4 should also work well with 4.5.3h. Enjoy and Mambo On

ape · June 15th, 2006, 03:42

Hi I have just downloaded and installed the new editor all went ok during the install and everything appears to be installed, however the editor doesn't show any actual editor buttons and the text shows as html?

Please advise or should I unistall and try again?

All the latest releases in case you query.

Might even get the Title right! Sorry! MOStlyCE

rwd · June 15th, 2006, 04:49

I have the same problem. All was well in the install, switch global config to use MOStlyCE and no buttons appear. Raw HTML show up in the editor window. Looks like no editor defined. Running Mambo 4.5.4, IE as browser. The following two error messages come up as well.

Line: 43
Char: 2
Error: 'realTinyMCE' is undefined
Code: 0
http://www.kedivingclub.org/index.ph...d=1&Returnid=1

and

Line: 123
Char: 1
Error: Expected identifier, string or number
Code: 0
http://www.kwdivingclub.org/index.ph...d=1&Returnid=1

more info...
error messages only start to happen when logged into site. Guests have no errors. Errors occur on pages with no 'editable' elements.

Perhaps a mistype in a global declaration of some sort??

rwd

Ciumegu · June 15th, 2006, 05:17

Hi all,

I have a problem too, actually I had the same problem with TinyMCE : in the "Style" combo there aren't any styles that I have defined, and I can't get it to work.My site relies heavily on styles and I have to edit manually the HTML. I have no problem with that, but when I deliver the project to my clients they won't even know where to begin... Any suggestions?

(PS: I have v4.5.3h)

cauld · June 15th, 2006, 05:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ape

Hi I have just downloaded and installed the new editor all went ok during the install and everything appears to be installed, however the editor doesn't show any actual editor buttons and the text shows as html?

Please advise or should I unistall and try again?

All the latest releases in case you query.

Might even get the Title right! Sorry! MOStlyCE

Yes for this one I would suggest you remove all the current files and reinstall. I have seen this behavior before and it appeared when not all the files were installed properly and/or had been corrupted.

cauld · June 15th, 2006, 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwd

I have the same problem. All was well in the install, switch global config to use MOStlyCE and no buttons appear. Raw HTML show up in the editor window. Looks like no editor defined. Running Mambo 4.5.4, IE as browser. The following two error messages come up as well.

Line: 43
Char: 2
Error: 'realTinyMCE' is undefined
Code: 0
http://www.kedivingclub.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=edit&id=22&Itemi d=1&Returnid=1

and

Line: 123
Char: 1
Error: Expected identifier, string or number
Code: 0
http://www.kwdivingclub.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=edit&id=22&Itemi d=1&Returnid=1

more info...
error messages only start to happen when logged into site. Guests have no errors. Errors occur on pages with no 'editable' elements.

Perhaps a mistype in a global declaration of some sort??

rwd

This problem seems to have found its way back in back in. It was an old bug with IE I thought I fixed a while ago. I'll work on it tonight and try to get out an updated version. It's odd we didn't see this come up in internal tested. I know we did some testing with IE. OK well I should be able to fix tonight and get out a new very quickly.

cauld · June 15th, 2006, 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciumegu

Hi all,

I have a problem too, actually I had the same problem with TinyMCE : in the "Style" combo there aren't any styles that I have defined, and I can't get it to work.My site relies heavily on styles and I have to edit manually the HTML. I have no problem with that, but when I deliver the project to my clients they won't even know where to begin... Any suggestions?

(PS: I have v4.5.3h)

Hello Ciumegu, do you have the MOStlyCE Admin component installed? If so on the general tab of the Admin there are two options that are important. The first is " Override Template CSS", you'll have to set this to "Yes". Next is the "Custom CSS File", you'll have to place your file inside the templates directory and make sure you match up the names here.

ape · June 15th, 2006, 05:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by cauld

Yes for this one I would suggest you remove all the current files and reinstall. I have seen this behavior before and it appeared when not all the files were installed properly and/or had been corrupted.

Yeah, already tried that while I waited for a reply and still it doesn't seem to want to work?

Any other ideas or where I should start looking?

Regards

Ciumegu · June 15th, 2006, 05:58

It worked, thanks!

And for those in need if styles as much as I...the "Styles" combo displays only classes, not ID-s (as I had lots of them and did'n know why they aren't displayed

)

cauld · June 15th, 2006, 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ape

Any other ideas or where I should start looking?

Check permissions on the new files / directories.

rwd · June 15th, 2006, 06:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by cauld

This problem seems to have found its way back in back in. It was an old bug with IE I thought I fixed a while ago. I'll work on it tonight and try to get out an updated version. It's odd we didn't see this come up in internal tested. I know we did some testing with IE. OK well I should be able to fix tonight and get out a new very quickly.

Confirmed. My site and MOStlyCE works fine with FF.. just cacks with IE. hmmm. what's the message here?

Looks like it is down in the tiny_mce_gzip.php code.

Looking forward to the update.

ape · June 15th, 2006, 06:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by cauld

Check permissions on the new files / directories.

755 and 644 as per another post I saw is that correct? Already done this also if that's what you are referring to?

ape · June 15th, 2006, 06:38

Just installed firefox and tested the new editor and hey-presto! it works fine, well all the buttons show and the text is in readable format not html!

Houston you have a problem then me thinks?

Will there be a fix?

cauld · June 15th, 2006, 07:03

Yes.. that is what I expected. This problem only raises it head in IE. I'm a Linux guy and do all my work with FF, but we do aim to support the major browsers so I'll have another look at IE today and get a fix ready.

cauld · June 15th, 2006, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwd

I have the same problem. All was well in the install, switch global config to use MOStlyCE and no buttons appear. Raw HTML show up in the editor window. Looks like no editor defined. Running Mambo 4.5.4, IE as browser. The following two error messages come up as well.

Line: 43
Char: 2
Error: 'realTinyMCE' is undefined
Code: 0
http://www.kedivingclub.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=edit&id=22&Itemi d=1&Returnid=1

I messed around with this for a while and did some searching on the TinyMCE forums. Seems many people are having the same issue with IE6. The error comes from the TinyMCE compressor. The solution for IE6 users is to just open the MOStlyCE Admin Component and disable "Editor Compression".

We are running the latest version of the TinyMCE compressor (v1.0.8 ). When an updated version is released we'll update MOStlyCE's version as well and hopefully this issue is corrected. I recall we did have this working with earlier versions of the compressor, but past versions have had security holes and thus I do not recommend downgrading.

ape · June 16th, 2006, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by cauld

I messed around with this for a while and did some searching on the TinyMCE forums. Seems many people are having the same issue with IE6. The error comes from the TinyMCE compressor. The solution for IE6 users is to just open the MOStlyCE Admin Component and disable "Editor Compression".

We are running the latest version of the TinyMCE compressor (v1.0.8 ). When an updated version is released we'll update MOStlyCE's version as well and hopefully this issue is corrected. I recall we did have this working with earlier versions of the compressor, but past versions have had security holes and thus I do not recommend downgrading.

I just tried this and it seems to work or at least the editor and text are displaying now, i will add some content and see if it uploads ok etc.

What is the compression for then? Speed up loading?

cauld · June 16th, 2006, 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ape

I just tried this and it seems to work or at least the editor and text are displaying now, i will add some content and see if it uploads ok etc.

What is the compression for then? Speed up loading?

OK let me know. Things should work just fine without it. The compressor is a really nice feature that speeds up the editor quite considerably, but is not a requirement. In a nutshell it aims to reduce traffic (i.e.) the number of requests the editor needs to send back and forth. TinyMCE claims up to as much as a 75% reduction.

smeding · June 16th, 2006, 04:59

Hi,

Turning off the compression solves the problem!

Thanks
Piet

cauld · June 16th, 2006, 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeding

Hi,

Turning off the compression solves the problem!

Thanks
Piet

No problem. Enjoy

rwd · June 16th, 2006, 06:48

sigh.. I guess I am special. Turning off compression does indeed make it better. Buttons show up with the exception of the bold, italic and underline buttons which do not have their icons. Another anomaly is that when HTML view is brought up, the update and cancel buttons are 'malformed'. All of these buttons work i.e. I can bold text etc... The error message that referred to realTinyMCE is now gone but the second message about expecting identifier string or number has morphed into

Line: 41
Char: 1
Error: Expected identifier, string or number
Code: 0
http://www.kwdivingclub.org/

I also tried bumping up to IE 7 Beta 2 with the same result. FF as usual is just plain ok. Fascinating...

June 14th, 2006, 17:02	#1
cauld Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,731	MOStlyCE Released for Mambo 4.5.4 Hello everyone, I just wanted to let everyone know that we released the new default editor, MOStlyCE, for Mambo today. It will be the default in future versions starting with 4.6. We decided to backport to 4.5.4 as well. You can find it here on "The Source". I think you'll find it a big improvement over the plain TinyMCE editor included with Mambo. Note: The version released for 4.5.4 should also work well with 4.5.3h. Enjoy and Mambo On __________________ http://brilaps.com http://opensourcepenguin.net

June 15th, 2006, 03:42	#2
ape Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5	Error no editor MOSTICE Hi I have just downloaded and installed the new editor all went ok during the install and everything appears to be installed, however the editor doesn't show any actual editor buttons and the text shows as html? Please advise or should I unistall and try again? All the latest releases in case you query. Might even get the Title right! Sorry! MOStlyCE

June 15th, 2006, 04:49	#3
rwd Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	similar behaviour.. error message included I have the same problem. All was well in the install, switch global config to use MOStlyCE and no buttons appear. Raw HTML show up in the editor window. Looks like no editor defined. Running Mambo 4.5.4, IE as browser. The following two error messages come up as well. Line: 43 Char: 2 Error: 'realTinyMCE' is undefined Code: 0 http://www.kedivingclub.org/index.ph...d=1&Returnid=1 and Line: 123 Char: 1 Error: Expected identifier, string or number Code: 0 http://www.kwdivingclub.org/index.ph...d=1&Returnid=1 more info... error messages only start to happen when logged into site. Guests have no errors. Errors occur on pages with no 'editable' elements. Perhaps a mistype in a global declaration of some sort?? rwd Last edited by rwd : June 15th, 2006 at 05:19.

June 15th, 2006, 06:38	#13
ape Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5	Works OK with Firefox Just installed firefox and tested the new editor and hey-presto! it works fine, well all the buttons show and the text is in readable format not html! Houston you have a problem then me thinks? Will there be a fix?

June 15th, 2006, 07:03	#14
cauld Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 1,731	Yes.. that is what I expected. This problem only raises it head in IE. I'm a Linux guy and do all my work with FF, but we do aim to support the major browsers so I'll have another look at IE today and get a fix ready. __________________ http://brilaps.com http://opensourcepenguin.net

June 15th, 2006, 05:17	#4
Ciumegu Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	Hi all, I have a problem too, actually I had the same problem with TinyMCE : in the "Style" combo there aren't any styles that I have defined, and I can't get it to work.My site relies heavily on styles and I have to edit manually the HTML. I have no problem with that, but when I deliver the project to my clients they won't even know where to begin... Any suggestions? (PS: I have v4.5.3h)

June 15th, 2006, 05:58	#9
Ciumegu Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	It worked, thanks! And for those in need if styles as much as I...the "Styles" combo displays only classes, not ID-s (as I had lots of them and did'n know why they aren't displayed )

June 16th, 2006, 04:59	#18
smeding Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2	No buttons Hi, Turning off the compression solves the problem! Thanks Piet

June 16th, 2006, 06:48	#20
rwd Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	sigh.. I guess I am special. Turning off compression does indeed make it better. Buttons show up with the exception of the bold, italic and underline buttons which do not have their icons. Another anomaly is that when HTML view is brought up, the update and cancel buttons are 'malformed'. All of these buttons work i.e. I can bold text etc... The error message that referred to realTinyMCE is now gone but the second message about expecting identifier string or number has morphed into Line: 41 Char: 1 Error: Expected identifier, string or number Code: 0 http://www.kwdivingclub.org/ I also tried bumping up to IE 7 Beta 2 with the same result. FF as usual is just plain ok. Fascinating...

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