Helping with 5.0

[Davey]

Dear developers,

I would like to offer my help for Mambo 5.0, I've checked out the current CVS and have already fixed some small bugs in the admin panel and would like to know where to submit patches :)

If you're interested in my experience and would like my input, please see http://synapticmedia.net/~davey/CV and http://pear.php.net/user/davey

- Davey

p.s.

Theres no 5.0 bug tracker or such in the Mamboforge project for Mambo :)

[stingrey]

Dear developers,

I would like to offer my help for Mambo 5.0, I've checked out the current CVS and have already fixed some small bugs in the admin panel and would like to know where to submit patches :)

If you're interested in my experience and would like my input, please see http://synapticmedia.net/~davey/CV and http://pear.php.net/user/davey

- Davey
Thank you for the offer Davey.
At this stage the Mambo Development Team is not looking to add new members. However we are always recepetive to new ideas and submitted fixes - we especially like it when bug reports include possible solutions ;-).

Regards any patchwork for 5.0, probably best to post them here in your thread. As 5.0 is in a heavy experimentation and flux state we have not opened a seperate tracker for it as we expect most things will not work properly at this early stage of development.

As a general note the 5.0 CVS should be seen as a very heavy WIP.

[silexian]

Dear developers,

I would like to offer my help for Mambo 5.0, I've checked out the current CVS and have already fixed some small bugs in the admin panel and would like to know where to submit patches :)

If you're interested in my experience and would like my input, please see http://synapticmedia.net/~davey/CV and http://pear.php.net/user/davey

- Davey

p.s.

Theres no 5.0 bug tracker or such in the Mamboforge project for Mambo :)

hello

could you publish your 5.0 on the web for us to test ? (front + back)
(for security reason, limit what you want)
just to have an idea :)

[stingrey]

hello

could you publish your 5.0 on the web for us to test ? (front + back)
(for security reason, limit what you want)
just to have an idea :)
5.0 has always been available via CVS.

However we do not recommend use of 5.0 in anyway - it should only be used to get an idea of what will be coming to 5.0

The work on 5.0 is still at an early stage and things WILL change.
I fear making it available for download will be more trouble than its worth.

The only people who should be using it is 3rd Party Developers and the curious coder. This may sound harsh, but If you dont know how to use CVS to download 5.0 than it is much better to wait for when we reach a Beta stage

[mks]

Hey,

I'm interested in playing around iwth 5.0, I just can't find the proper way to do it, TortoiseCVS always gives me some error
:pserver:anonymous@cvs.mamboforge.net:/cvsroot/mambo/
are there any errors in the line above? what should I use as the module name?

[mmx]

Hey,

I'm interested in playing around iwth 5.0, I just can't find the proper way to do it, TortoiseCVS always gives me some error
:pserver:anonymous@cvs.mamboforge.net:/cvsroot/mambo/
are there any errors in the line above? what should I use as the module name?Below are my Tortoise setups for various Mambo versions. Under your localhost on your PC, your might want to create a folder called CVS and create subfolders under it with the module names (4.5.x, 5.0, etc.). Then you can right click on the module names and select the Tortoise Checkout option on the popup menu to download something like a 5.0 or 4.5.x module.


http://tinypic.com/15cz7n

Keep in mind that the 5.0 module is a Research & Development area, so a lot of research and experimentation in the form of trial and error testing is going on. Because of the Christmas holidays, there has not been much work on there, but things should be different after the first of the year.

[ChipMonk]

Well, i think i m more excited than the developers to get 5.0 working... and experimenting ofcourse.

I am a systems administrator in an ISP, please let me know if i can be of any help... atleast i can make good noise :p

first time i musing this turtle and CVS thing, on my windows 2003 environment. let me see what willl crash.... btw i will upload it to the web.

[stingrey]

Please note 5.0 is currently not very usable and is really only useful for those looking under the bonnet at the code.

[ChipMonk]

Please note 5.0 is currently not very usable and is really only useful for those looking under the bonnet at the code.
I do understand :) but am trying it for myself only ;)

[ChipMonk]

well, installed successfully, with no error (despite one that one folder is not writable, while it was not existing).

now when i log in, it says wrong username and password, i installed it thrice, all time the same. what could be wrong?

[Gayle]

now when i log in, it says wrong username and password, i installed it thrice, all time the same. what could be wrong?
Welcome to CVS :D

Maybe the installer isn't finished, maybe there's a bug in the login routines, maybe the authentication is halfway through being converted to Common LISP. It could be any one of a thousand reasons and you can't get support or help for any of them.

This is the whole reason for the "Do not use the CVS" thread, it's not ready to be used.

[ChipMonk]

Welcome to CVS :D

Maybe the installer isn't finished, maybe there's a bug in the login routines, maybe the authentication is halfway through being converted to Common LISP. It could be any one of a thousand reasons and you can't get support or help for any of them.

This is the whole reason for the "Do not use the CVS" thread, it's not ready to be used.
lolz, thatz nice ;)

i think i better remove it :p and try 4.5.2 or 4.6 instead (if that is available by CVS

[mmx]

Welcome to CVS :D

Maybe the installer isn't finished, maybe there's a bug in the login routines, maybe the authentication is halfway through being converted to Common LISP. It could be any one of a thousand reasons and you can't get support or help for any of them.

This is the whole reason for the "Do not use the CVS" thread, it's not ready to be used.Ha, ha! Honestly, it was working as per the last few weeks until my checkout yesterday. Not working at all at various points in time is pretty typical for a development prototype. The LISP comment caused a few chuckles here.

A bit of trivia from Robin Clover's Pages. Did you know that XSL is based on the style part of the ISO DSSSL specification (for SGML) and XSLT is based on the transformation part. And, DSSSL is based on a dialect of LISP with some extra document processing bells and whistles.

[ChipMonk]

well, i got the trouble :p i changed the prefix to mos50_ and that was the problem :s rechecked, and logged in finally.... wish me good luck

[Buffalo]

Dear developers,

In the last year I was engaged in the further development of your “Mambo” CMS, with such purpose:
1 To add active use of opportunities PHP 5.
2 To separate data from representation through transformations XML-> XSLT ( XSLT templates).
3 To add templates for the administrator’s interface.
4 To add error’s and session’s handlers.
5 To move scripts in a separate folder and to move it from Document root directory for security reason.(In Document root stay only javascripts, images etc)
6 To separate database’s and site’s configurations for security reason.


These problems have been executed, but during work I have come to conclusion, that an opportunity to expand the application due to components, modules and XML-> XSLT transformations is badly incompatible among themselves.
I have made a set of templates for a component content (news) in which there is a template of the component and templates of modules. It enables change an arrangement and quantity of modules due to addition in final XML data already transformed of XML in HTML modules as CDATA sections. Main problem is that: in each set of templates must be XSLT templates of all installed modules compatible to templates of components. Here not a way to copy a template from one set in another. Data will be deduced, but the general style of a template will be broken. To correct a template it is necessary to know XSL rules, know what data will be processed and what will be deduced

I can send all these scripts to you, if you are interested. I don't post them here because this archive's size about 3MB

For my site, if it sometime appears, I have decided to deduce all data for a component and constant modules in one XML data, or cache file and then make XML->XSLT transformation. Unfortunately, such approach at all we do not expand. As to add the module it is necessary to alter a template.

Sorry by my english, Buffalo

[ChipMonk]

CVS is down i think, since the release of 4.5.2 its not working.

[swordhert]

when you going to open cvs?