4.5.1 Editors Suck!

[passenger57]

I love mambo and have been using it for over a year and on a ton of sites I've been developing but I have to say that the editor support for 4.5.1 REALLY SUCKS BIG TIME!
I cant install WYSIWYGPRO without a ton of config problems, I cant use HTMLAREA 3 XTD because the image upload wont work on the front end (LAAAAME)...the little default editor that comes with mambo is too limited - I WILL PAY SOMEONE FOR AN EDITOR THAT WORKS!!!! I've been through ALL the form posts on these editors for days and cant get one to work.
I'm really bummed about it - I thought by now this would have been worked out by someone.
I guess its back to the old mambo for a few months until this is worked out.
VERY DISSAPOINTED.

[jomaco1]

I don't really care for the WYSIWYG editors, but I understand they are a necessary evil for clients to be able to update/edit their own sites. Personally, I prefer to use htmlarea2 for 4.5.1...you can get it HERE (http://www.mamboopensource.nl/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=126&task=view_category&catid=27&order=dmdate_published&ascdesc=DESC). One of the things I like about it is that it doesn't work in FireFox. So, if I want to edit in html, I use FF, my default browser. If I need the editor, I open the site in IE and instruct my clients to edit the site using IE. (Of course, most of them only use IE.)

[Markku]

I cant use HTMLAREA 3 XTD because the image upload wont work on the front end (LAAAAME)

Maybe this small fix allows you to use image upload in HTMLAREA3 XTD
http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=19057&page=2

[passenger57]

Thanks for the htmlarea2 link - I can now upload images!

[eric_brissette]

Maybe this small fix allows you to use image upload in HTMLAREA3 XTD
http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=19057&page=2

And HTMLArea3 XTD-C Pro supports this by default. Also, it has a greatly improved 'create link' feature.

[jifor]

Maybe this isn't the right thread for this, but I can't use the tinymce editor in either IE or FF on a new install. I know there is a fix, but I can't find it.

The text area is blank and I cannot input the html/content . I've fixed it before on an earlier istall (2 months agoo?) thanks to these forums, but can't find the solution, now. :-x

Any help appreciated,

David

[Grantfuller]

People keep telling me I don't need to know php in order to use Mambo, but how else do I deal with this?

Notice: Undefined variable: my in c:\program files\apache group\apache\htdocs\mambo4.5.1\mambots\editors\htm larea3_xtd\popups\imagemanager\images.php on line 15

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: do_upload() in c:\program files\apache group\apache\htdocs\mambo4.5.1\mambots\editors\htm larea3_xtd\popups\imagemanager\images.php on line 71

[toubkal]

jifor, have you seen the TinyMCE sticky in the wysiwyg editors section of this forum?

[jifor]

Thank you. :oops:

[essex]

Hi make your images.php file look like this:

function do_upload($file, $dest_dir)
{
global $clearUploads;

if(is_file($file['tmp_name']))
{
//var_dump($file); echo "DIR:$dest_dir";
move_uploaded_file($file['tmp_name'], $dest_dir.$file['name']);
chmod($dest_dir.$file['name'], 0666);
}



$clearUploads = true;
}

if (!$my->id) {
require( "../../../../../administrator/includes/auth.php" );
}
if ($my->id && ($my->gid == 2 || ($my->gid >= 19 && $my->gid <= 25))) {
include 'config.inc.php';

if(isset($_GET['dir'])) {
$dirParam = $_GET['dir'];

if(strlen($dirParam) > 0)
{
if(substr($dirParam,0,1)=='/')
$IMG_ROOT .= $dirParam;
else
$IMG_ROOT = $dirParam;
}
}

$refresh_dirs = false;
$clearUploads = false;

if(strrpos($IMG_ROOT, '/')!= strlen($IMG_ROOT)-1)
$IMG_ROOT .= '/';


if(isset($_GET['create']) && isset($_GET['dir']) && $SAFE_MODE == false)
{
create_folder();
}

if(isset($_GET['delFile']) && isset($_GET['dir']))
{
delete_file($_GET['delFile']);
}

if(isset($_GET['delFolder']) && isset($_GET['dir']))
{
delete_folder($_GET['delFolder']);
}

if(isset($_FILES['upload']) && is_array($_FILES['upload']) && isset($_POST['dirPath']))
{

$dirPathPost = $_POST['dirPath'];

if(strlen($dirPathPost) > 0)
{
if(substr($dirPathPost,0,1)=='/')
$IMG_ROOT .= $dirPathPost;
else
$IMG_ROOT = $dirPathPost;
}

if(strrpos($IMG_ROOT, '/')!= strlen($IMG_ROOT)-1)
$IMG_ROOT .= '/';

do_upload($_FILES['upload'], $BASE_DIR.$BASE_ROOT.$dirPathPost.'/');
}

/*function do_upload($file, $dest_dir)
{
global $clearUploads;

if(is_file($file['tmp_name']))
{
//var_dump($file); echo "DIR:$dest_dir";
move_uploaded_file($file['tmp_name'], $dest_dir.$file['name']);
chmod($dest_dir.$file['name'], 0666);
}



$clearUploads = true;
}*/


I commented out the function do_upload and placed it at the beggining right after

$base_path = "../../../../..";

[gmeleski]

I love mambo and have been using it for over a year and on a ton of sites I've been developing but I have to say that the editor support for 4.5.1 REALLY SUCKS BIG TIME!


I've said that from the first time I started using Mambo quite some time ago.

The dev team should really pay a bit more attention to this instead of passing it on for a third party developer to program.

Personally, my opionin is this should be a core part for the ease of use of the CMS.

As it is now, you better be pretty good with HTML to get consitent results.

Gary Meleski
http://www.blueskyrecords.com

[oztinks]

The dev team should really pay a bit more attention to this instead of passing it on for a third party developer to program.

The Dev team are php developers and the editors are complex javascript apps

Best if they are developed by someone in that area of expertise
Besides the comercial version of HTMLarea_3xtd looks like it does pretty well everything.

[stingrey]

The dev team should really pay a bit more attention to this instead of passing it on for a third party developer to program.

Personally, my opionin is this should be a core part for the ease of use of the CMS.

Sorry we have no intention to start creating our own WYSIWYG Editor.


Developing a CMS is a difficult enough undertaking without having to also try code a WYSIWYG Editor as well.

Mambo will continue to leverage other leading open source developments where we do not have the capability within the team or it would be inefficient to code it ourselves. It is for this reason that we utilise other OS developments like DOMIT, PhpGACL, phpmailer, patTemplates to name the major ones we use in mambo.
In using these other OS developments we have been able to contribute back to these developments in terms of feedback and design suggestions, which in turn fuels the further development of these seperate developments.
Its all a matter of specialisation. We could probably create a WYSIWG Editor, but it wouldnt be anywhere as good as that produced by a specialised group of developers who are dedicated to the task of creating the best editor.

[gmeleski]

We could probably create a WYSIWG Editor, but it wouldnt be anywhere as good as that produced by a specialised group of developers who are dedicated to the task of creating the best editor.

Then I am of the personal belief you should in some way coordinate or possibly get these people to look over Mambo and consider the development of their editors to work with Mambo without hacks of all kinds.

I've been here in the community for a bit over a year, made plenty of contributions in many ways, and I still say that the ONLY weak link is the editors "Bundled" with Mambo.

Maybe you can see my point, maybe not. It's my opinion as a daily user of Mambo.

Quote "4.5.1 editors suck!"

Gary Meleski

[novocaine]

Then I am of the personal belief you should in some way coordinate or possibly get these people to look over Mambo and consider the development of their editors to work with Mambo without hacks of all kinds.

I've been here in the community for a bit over a year, made plenty of contributions in many ways, and I still say that the ONLY weak link is the editors "Bundled" with Mambo.

Maybe you can see my point, maybe not. It's my opinion as a daily user of Mambo.

Quote "4.5.1 editors suck!"

Gary Meleski
Seems you still don't get the point. Just like stingray already said: the development of a CMS is already a complex project and it's "only" (notice the bold quotation marks) serverside.
So in your opinion they additionally should develop a clientside WYSIWYG editor, that's supposed to work on every OS and every browser.
In my opinion it is the only thing you can do - provide the possibility to use different solutions, leave development of an editor up to others and rely on the fact that everyone will find something that will satisfy him - well, actually of course only if he's willing to :rolleyes:

[gmeleski]

So in your opinion they additionally should develop a clientside WYSIWYG editor, that's supposed to work on every OS and every browser.
In my opinion it is the only thing you can do - provide the possibility to use different solutions, leave development of an editor up to others and rely on the fact that everyone will find something that will satisfy him - well, actually of course only if he's willing to :rolleyes:

You missed what I am saying.

They might want to look into somehow coordinating the inclusion of SOMEONE elses editor that actually is worth something, into the RELEASE of MAMBO.

Mambo would be the King of Open Source CMS's if that ever happened.

The problem is, Mambo changes so often it seems, that by the time a decent editor shows up, the next version renders it obsolete or at least in need of significant upgrading itself.

Let's do this: Add a team member who is willing to work only on incorporating editors into the final release. He (She) has no part in the coding of the core but only for the editor. Such as htmlarea3 or whatever.

So you see, what I am getting at is not in any way to have the core team develop any kind of editor, but a specialized member to do only that. After all, Mambo's main function is to relay news and articles.

I've read all the other arguments regarding this matter. I hold firm on my opinion as I stated it above.

As always, the most respect to the dev team.

Gary Meleski

[amcvinnie]

OMG I have been combing the forums and documentation all morning...

I have been unable to get images to post with my content, and thought it was something wrong with my configuration, or maybe my images themselves... but then I found this thread are read that the htmlarea2 edit DOESN'T WORK WITH FIREFOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why in the hell does Mambo suggest Firfox with a little graphical link to it if the damn thing does not work with Mambo right out of the box?

I was reading the documentation, and looking at the screen shots thinking "Why doesnt my Add Content look like that?" After reading this thread, I opened my site with IE6, and BAM it works fine...

<dumbfounded>I just can't believe it...</dumbfounded>

Andrew McVinnie

[mambosolutions]

I would argue that your assesment that lack of a core editor that ships with default mambo is the ONLY weak link is false. There are other things that are bigger weak links in the cuurent mambo version like
1)ACL (user management)
2)seperation of code and presentaion logic
3)multilanguage possibilities

I agree that it would 'be nice' if mambo shipped with at least one other editor choice that has the upload image functionality. I prefer to use HTMLarea2 , but it only works on IE. I understand the position of the dev team fully in their decision to leave this up to 3PD. I would also argue that now that HTML area2 for 4.5.1 is here and also the pro version of HTML area 3 xtd that there is already enough good editors to choose from. do i care thtey they have to be installed seperately? nope, takes but a minute.


Then I am of the personal belief you should in some way coordinate or possibly get these people to look over Mambo and consider the development of their editors to work with Mambo without hacks of all kinds.

I've been here in the community for a bit over a year, made plenty of contributions in many ways, and I still say that the ONLY weak link is the editors "Bundled" with Mambo.

Maybe you can see my point, maybe not. It's my opinion as a daily user of Mambo.

Quote "4.5.1 editors suck!"

Gary Meleski

[mambosolutions]

obviously yo have absolutley no clue to how complex a WYSIWYG live editor is to create and have function in multiple browsers and OS.

I for one am thankful to the authors of all these 3rd party editors for taking their free time to contribute to the Mambo community



OMG I have been combing the forums and documentation all morning...

I have been unable to get images to post with my content, and thought it was something wrong with my configuration, or maybe my images themselves... but then I found this thread are read that the htmlarea2 edit DOESN'T WORK WITH FIREFOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why in the hell does Mambo suggest Firfox with a little graphical link to it if the damn thing does not work with Mambo right out of the box?

I was reading the documentation, and looking at the screen shots thinking "Why doesnt my Add Content look like that?" After reading this thread, I opened my site with IE6, and BAM it works fine...

<dumbfounded>I just can't believe it...</dumbfounded>

Andrew McVinnie

[notafinga]

After reading all of these threads about tinyMCE editor and htmlarea2,3 3XTD, pro..... I decided last night to install FCKeditor and it works perfect at home on both firefox and internet explorer....but when I got to work this morning it will only work in internet explorer. Must be something here at work causing the problem, I have the newest version of firefox both here and at work.

I dont care if I have to use only at home to use firefox as long as it works.

I am also using 4.5.1a and have had some compatability issues with the older components and modules, but aside from that everything seems to be working fine....note it doesn't work as good as 1.0.9 but I can deal with that.

In general I am just happy to have found Mambo, it has made website dev alot easier than other programs, and since I don't care to learn HTML I am happy with what the Mambo developers have done by creating this awesome package in Mambo.

Thank You to all of the team of people that have made my website dev. an awesome expierence.

[jifor]

Do any of these editors support spell check?

[stingrey]

Do any of these editors support spell check?I think novocaine mentioned in another thread that htmlaraea3 supports an inbuilt spell checker.

[stingrey]

but then I found this thread are read that the htmlarea2 edit DOESN'T WORK WITH FIREFOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why in the hell does Mambo suggest Firfox with a little graphical link to it if the damn thing does not work with Mambo right out of the box?
This was a known issue with htmlarea2, which is one of the reasons it was dumped for the 4.5.1 release.

You have to remember that when 4.5.0 was first started in late 2003 and had its first stable release in the start of 2004. Back then Firefox was not as widely used or as widely known.

[stingrey]

Then I am of the personal belief you should in some way coordinate or possibly get these people to look over Mambo and consider the development of their editors to work with Mambo without hacks of all kinds.

I've been here in the community for a bit over a year, made plenty of contributions in many ways, and I still say that the ONLY weak link is the editors "Bundled" with Mambo.

We are aware of the weaknesses that are inherint with WYSWYG Editors.
It is for these reasons that we moved from htmlarea2 -> TinyMCE.

The most stable but editor out there was RTE, and it was intially included in 4.5.1 in the Beta tests, but people said it was too basic, so it was removed.

Some bugs have only become apparent once a critical mass of users started using 4.5.1, remember this is an Open Source development, so we rely on the community to a very large extent on bug testing & reporting. Hopefully most of these will be fixed by the next patch release.

Regards coordinating with WYSIWYG Editor developers. We pass on any bugs or comments to the developers, who are happy for such feedback. And in some cases the Editor developers themselves visit these forums - I've seen posts by the TinyMCE and the WYSIWYGPro developers.
We do what we can to encourage the growth of other OS developments like TinyMCE and continue to do so.

[amcvinnie]

When I wrote this the other day, I had not realized there was a new version of Mambo... I did not realize 4.5.1 had changed to 4.5.1a.

Now with 4.5.1a i use the Tiny editor and it works fine from everywhere... didnt mean to just anyone's ****... Just think, I used Mambo for God knows how long without even knowing I was SUPPOSED to be able to see the editor bars! LOL

[drwalker]

Thanks for the link and thanks to Peter Koch and others. I can now use HTML to edit my content.

Wow, that was three days of pure grief trying to get tinyMCE to work... never could.

But I am sure someone smarter probably could! :mrgreen:

[maleli]

I liked fckeditor the best but now it wont work 100% in 451a.

amcvinnie, are you able to work with images. I get a white box where images are supposed to display and i can't upload images from fckeditor.

Any ideas?

[tijs]

I also like FCKeditor the best, but indeed it doesn't work 100%, at least in Firefox 1.0. It works better in IE (and not at all in Opera) but who wants to use crappy IE? Well, it seems I'll be forced to use it, I want to be able to upload images.

[hello]

Htmlarea2
http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=22384

Htmlarea3
http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=17664

FCK-Editor
http://forum.mamboserver.com/showthread.php?t=17665

[mambosolutions]

it can be quite confusing.... lol

sorry for biting your head off lol
When I wrote this the other day, I had not realized there was a new version of Mambo... I did not realize 4.5.1 had changed to 4.5.1a.

Now with 4.5.1a i use the Tiny editor and it works fine from everywhere... didnt mean to just anyone's ****... Just think, I used Mambo for God knows how long without even knowing I was SUPPOSED to be able to see the editor bars! LOL

[maleli]

tijs are you able to upload images and also use existing images from the server in IE?

I can't see my images. This is what I get and of course there are images in those folders but it shows up blank. And I can't upload either. Does it work for you in IE?

http://www.maleli.com/fck-img.gif

[tijs]

Maleli, yes, I can do that with IE (6.0). I see my images and I am able to upload new ones. I am doing that as superadministrator though, I haven't tried to do that as a normal Admin or User.
In Firefox I don't even see the "Resource Types", although I think this should be solved in FCK RC1, which unfortunately has not been ported yet to Mambo.
Well, I think I can agree with the title of this thread, it's such a pity the editors are so unstable for use with such a great product. I think I will give HTML Area 2 a try.

[tijs]

Try http://www.fckeditor.net/Demo/ for a demo. They are running RC1, and it works perfectly there!

[justhost]

Thanks for the link and thanks to Peter Koch and others. I can now use HTML to edit my content.

Wow, that was three days of pure grief trying to get tinyMCE to work... never could.

But I am sure someone smarter probably could! :mrgreen:

drwalker

Which editor are you now using? I am not overly impressed with TinyMCE? Unless I am mistaken I can not see the code view? and I have not been able to figure out how to change font colors and sizes??

The editor in 4.5.0 was better than this if I remember correctly?

Thanks.

[mambosolutions]

i am using html area xtd2 now mostly, it only work in IE, but thats ok for my clients, and for me to do updates.

i like htmlarea 3 xtd, but it is still troublesome

[keliix06]

drwalker

Which editor are you now using? I am not overly impressed with TinyMCE? Unless I am mistaken I can not see the code view? and I have not been able to figure out how to change font colors and sizes??

The editor in 4.5.0 was better than this if I remember correctly?

Thanks.
If you switch to advanced mode I believe you can see the html.

EDIT: I did just confirm this is correct. I still prefer HTMLArea3XTD, but TinyMCE is a great lightweight editor. I use it for sites that don't need image upload (ie, I do all content.)

[ChipMonk]

People keep telling me I don't need to know php in order to use Mambo, but how else do I deal with this?

Notice: Undefined variable: my in c:\program files\apache group\apache\htdocs\mambo4.5.1\mambots\editors\htm larea3_xtd\popups\imagemanager\images.php on line 15

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: do_upload() in c:\program files\apache group\apache\htdocs\mambo4.5.1\mambots\editors\htm larea3_xtd\popups\imagemanager\images.php on line 71


Most ppl doesnt know PHP.... but every thing that is supose to work AS IT IS needs very badly very solid PHP and SQL knowledge (i thanx CMS that i learned basic PHP skills using 'em :-P

[ChipMonk]

Hi make your images.php file look like this:

function do_upload($file, $dest_dir)
{
global $clearUploads;

if(is_file($file['tmp_name']))
{
//var_dump($file); echo "DIR:$dest_dir";
move_uploaded_file($file['tmp_name'], $dest_dir.$file['name']);
chmod($dest_dir.$file['name'], 0666);
}



$clearUploads = true;
}

if (!$my->id) {
require( "../../../../../administrator/includes/auth.php" );
}
if ($my->id && ($my->gid == 2 || ($my->gid >= 19 && $my->gid <= 25))) {
include 'config.inc.php';

if(isset($_GET['dir'])) {
$dirParam = $_GET['dir'];

if(strlen($dirParam) > 0)
{
if(substr($dirParam,0,1)=='/')
$IMG_ROOT .= $dirParam;
else
$IMG_ROOT = $dirParam;
}
}

$refresh_dirs = false;
$clearUploads = false;

if(strrpos($IMG_ROOT, '/')!= strlen($IMG_ROOT)-1)
$IMG_ROOT .= '/';


if(isset($_GET['create']) && isset($_GET['dir']) && $SAFE_MODE == false)
{
create_folder();
}

if(isset($_GET['delFile']) && isset($_GET['dir']))
{
delete_file($_GET['delFile']);
}

if(isset($_GET['delFolder']) && isset($_GET['dir']))
{
delete_folder($_GET['delFolder']);
}

if(isset($_FILES['upload']) && is_array($_FILES['upload']) && isset($_POST['dirPath']))
{

$dirPathPost = $_POST['dirPath'];

if(strlen($dirPathPost) > 0)
{
if(substr($dirPathPost,0,1)=='/')
$IMG_ROOT .= $dirPathPost;
else
$IMG_ROOT = $dirPathPost;
}

if(strrpos($IMG_ROOT, '/')!= strlen($IMG_ROOT)-1)
$IMG_ROOT .= '/';

do_upload($_FILES['upload'], $BASE_DIR.$BASE_ROOT.$dirPathPost.'/');
}

/*function do_upload($file, $dest_dir)
{
global $clearUploads;

if(is_file($file['tmp_name']))
{
//var_dump($file); echo "DIR:$dest_dir";
move_uploaded_file($file['tmp_name'], $dest_dir.$file['name']);
chmod($dest_dir.$file['name'], 0666);
}



$clearUploads = true;
}*/


I commented out the function do_upload and placed it at the beggining right after

$base_path = "../../../../..";



:mrgreen:

You dont need to know PHP to use mambo

[bobhughe]

I don't really care for the WYSIWYG editors,

bet u loved "reveal codes" in WordPerfect.... lmao


I agree... there is not a wysiwyg editor that works in Mambo "if" you don't install Mambo in the root of the web...

That stinks

[jomaco1]

bet u loved "reveal codes" in WordPerfect.... lmaohehe...I mostly used "freeware", but that stuff was all jibberish to me. I just started using html a few years ago, but find it easier to control in code view.

I agree... there is not a wysiwyg editor that works in Mambo "if" you don't install Mambo in the root of the web...

That stinksMost of my Mambo installations are in subdirectories. I just installed HtmlArea3 XTD to one of my sites (not in the root) and it works fine...image uploads no problem.

[bobhughe]

hmm... any help in my understanding of when I install Mambo in the root of a web wysiwyg editors work, and in subs they don't.... am at a bit of a wits end... though my wits are a bit dim

[Silverfish]

Will wysiwygpro work with 4.5.1a?

I use and love this editor. Please say it will work, I can not figure out how to add it.

Silver

[jomaco1]

hmm... any help in my understanding of when I install Mambo in the root of a web wysiwyg editors work, and in subs they don't.... am at a bit of a wits end... though my wits are a bit dimHow are you installing...shell, ftp or fantastico?

[gmeleski]

Will wysiwygpro work with 4.5.1a?

I use and love this editor. Please say it will work, I can not figure out how to add it.

Silver

Included in the documentation is the complete instructions for installing WYSIWYGPRO in Mambo. There is also a Mambot to install.

Very easy:

Installation Instructions
Step One:
Copy the editor_files folder into [mambo installation directory]/mambots/editors/

Step Two:
Re-name the editor_files folder to “wysiwygpro”

Step Three:
Copy the special config.php file included in this package into the wysiwygpro folder (the folder you renamed in step 2) overwriting the original config.php file.

Step Four:
Log in to your Mambo administration interface. Navigate to Mambots -> Install/Uninstall. Upload and install the wysiwygpro.zip file included in this package.

Step Five:
Navigate to Mambots -> Site Mambots and publish WysiwygPro. Un-publish any other WYSIWYG editors.

You should also CHMOD your "Editors" dir to 777.

I've installed WYSIWYGPRO on my new Blue Sky Records Update site ( 4.5.1a ) and it works perfect. I haven't deployed that site yet as I am waiting for Arthur Konze to port several Modules for his upcoming AkoFilebase. This was originally the "Remository" component that I commisioned all the changes.

I know $ 47.00 may be alot of money for the editor. But it fits my needs and is very stable and does all the things it should.

Also, I am VERY pleased to see some updated editors come out for Mambo as this was always a weak link in my opinion.

Gary Meleski
Blue Sky Records
http://www.blueskyrecords.com

[tjay]

The biggest thing wysiwygpro has going for it, is, IT WORKS.
I download every version of the opensource editors and try them when ever they are updated. I have yet to find one that works like it should. I had high hopes for the latest release of FCK, but as usual, dont work
So that is why I always end up back at wysiwygpro, time is money, and I dont have to invest hours getting it to work.
I am going to buy the server license as soon as I get Santa out of the way

[maleli]

The biggest thing wysiwygpro has going for it, is, IT WORKS.
I download every version of the opensource editors and try them when ever they are updated. I have yet to find one that works like it should. I had high hopes for the latest release of FCK, but as usual, dont work
So that is why I always end up back at wysiwygpro, time is money, and I dont have to invest hours getting it to work.
I am going to buy the server license as soon as I get Santa out of the way
I also had lost faith in FCK but there's a new release from Dec 12 04:
http://mamboforge.net/frs/?group_id=225
Works great, except you can't insert swf files into the content. Anybody know how add this functionality?

[bobhughe]

How are you installing...shell, ftp or fantastico?

Yes all... same results.

I finally did figure out why all the editors didn't work. Permissions on various folders were 777... by looking at the error log on my server, I was able to set the permissions, corretly... now all editors work... But... it's a lot of gyrations to go through...

[thomas.dahl]

Well, I have seldom seen so much in-fighting. Whether HTMLArea3 XTD-C Pro is a commercial version of GNU software or not someone else will decide. All I know is that it works and works really well. We tried several editors and HTMLArea3 XTD-C Pro works where others were quirky or buggy. Mambo needs a good editor and this is it. There more you work with it the better it gets.

[tomreedtoon]

Okay, guys. I know you're all arguing over editors. And I can't afford anything commercial (but I would donate to an open source author that made something really cool that worked within Mambo).

This is my problem, and it's with the basic TinyMCE editor that came with my Mambo installation (4.51a). When I edit text on an article that's saved, the text sometimes completely disappears. There is no record of it. This has happened with me and another author on the site. The only safe way to do things is to write out the article in a word proc, then cut and paste, submit the article and pray.

It would be great to have all the bells and whistles you talk about, but this is a fundamental problem. Have any of you experienced it and (hopefully) found a way to fix it?

And...my Spanish is lousy. Does anyone have a translation for the things on the FCK editor site? I doubt that it's the solution for me, but I'd like to know what it says.

[thomas.dahl]

Spend the $30 on HTMLArea3 XTD-C Pro.. It will make Mambo bareable.. Without a good editor what value a CMS?

[tomreedtoon]

Spend the $30 on HTMLArea3 XTD-C Pro.. It will make Mambo bareable.. Without a good editor what value a CMS?

Without any intended hostility...thanks for the Plug-O-Rama, thomas.dahl. I don't know if you work for them, or are just a really jazzed fan of it, but I'm not about to part with $30 of my ill-gotten gains without a COMPARISON.

What I'm suggesting is that some people with an unbiased (and I mean a TRUE unbiased, not a Faux News "fair and balanced" bunch of lies) outlook do a Consumer Reports-style comparison between the freeware and payware Mambo editors. Put up a chart comparing their features, their costs/recommended contributions, and actual performance doing various tasks.

I would love to be the one to bell this particular cat, but I am only renting a small server space that can only hold my group's site. However...(entering blushing mode) could one of you big, strong testers with your own servers offer a place for a Mambo installation and a test? And I'm sure the people who make payware would be glad to prove their product's virtues in a fair test and provide their software for review.

Perhaps Mamboforge might not wish to run this contest, since it's the official site, but other sites might wish to consider doing this.

[Dr_MjNoOoN]

Okay, guys. I know you're all arguing over editors. And I can't afford anything commercial (but I would donate to an open source author that made something really cool that worked within Mambo).

This is my problem, and it's with the basic TinyMCE editor that came with my Mambo installation (4.51a). When I edit text on an article that's saved, the text sometimes completely disappears. There is no record of it. This has happened with me and another author on the site. The only safe way to do things is to write out the article in a word proc, then cut and paste, submit the article and pray.

It would be great to have all the bells and whistles you talk about, but this is a fundamental problem. Have any of you experienced it and (hopefully) found a way to fix it?

And...my Spanish is lousy. Does anyone have a translation for the things on the FCK editor site? I doubt that it's the solution for me, but I'd like to know what it says.


And if I want to write from Right-to-Left (as Arabic language) with the same time writing English languages, then the whole article appears from Right-to-Left OR Left-to-Right !!!! is it a Bug ?!